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Being Well Podcast: End Self-Punishment: Curiosity, Joy, and Real Growth with Joe Hudson
October 27, 2025

In this episode of the Being Well Podcast, Forrest is joined by one of the world’s top executive coaches, Joe Hudson, for a conversation focused on how we can reduce self-punishment and live more fulfilling lives by welcoming our emotions and loosening identification with the critical mind. They discuss Joe’s “The Golden Algorithm” – our tendency to recreate the emotions we try to avoid – and explore the three pillars of emotional fluidity, cognitive clarity, and nervous system awareness. Joe emphasizes how good change usually comes from reconnecting with who we already are, and welcoming fear, pleasure, and imperfection along the way.

Really enjoyed this one, I hope you do too!

About our Guest: Joe Hudson is the founder of the Art of Accomplishment, and is one of the most sought-after teachers among the world’s top leaders at OpenAI, Alphabet, Apple, and more. He coaches a small group of executives by invitation only, and has collaborated with teachers like Esther Perel, Bessel van der Kolk, Patty Wipfler, and Tiago Forte.

Key Topics

  • 1:14: The Three Pillars: Emotion, Cognition, Nervous System
  • 8:29: Self-improvement as an act of authenticity
  • 15:44: Deconstructing our thoughts
  • 23:19: The golden algorithm, repression, and why we recreate our pain in the form of self-punishment
  • 31:31: Working with the nervous system
  • 34:11: Shame
  • 43:14: Emotions as windows into wants and needs
  • 49:45: Perfectionism
  • 55:27: Enjoying life
  • 1:08:07: Recap

Forrest is now writing on Substack, check out his work there.

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